Stonewall Democrats Oppose Term Limits

The Weho-based political club votes overwhelmingly to endorse a "no" vote on Measure C.

The Stonewall Democratic Club voted Monday to oppose term limits for West Hollywood City Council members.

After speakers for both sides of the issue made their case, club members voted 37-5 in favor of a "no" vote on Measure C, which seeks to establish a maximum of three, four-year terms in office.

"I am opposed to term limits because they are inherently undemocratic," said club member Lester Aponte. "Our founding fathers considered the idea when they crafted the U.S. Constitution and rightly rejected it."

Term limit opponents argued that in the past incumbents have been voted off of the council and pointed to the Los Angeles County Democratic Party's anti-term limits position.

Supporters of the proposition noted that they collected more than the required number of signatures to put the meaure on the ballot in a short time and the idea has a lot of support. The term limits campaign last year to qualify the measure for the March 5 ballot.

Earlier this month the club voted to back incumbents Jeffrey Prang and John Duran.

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judson greene January 31, 2013 at 04:30 PM
As one of the foot soldiers out in the neighborhoods working for passage of Measure C packing the Stonewall meeting with anti term limits folks doesn't really speak to the West Hollywood residents feelings. Remember votes are allowed from members across city lines. Those of us working to maintain no consensus as rightfully the way to go which was the position of the Stonewall Democratic Club remember were disappointed that a motion and vote by those who don't live here really speak to West Hollywood sentiments. And, you should state that in your analysis. And as well please note that a $5000 donation came from a developer bringing up a huge mixed use development project currently referred to as the Melrose Triangle Project hosted John Heilman and Abbe Land's reelection office. So maybe we want to look at a continuation of how developers try to game the votes in this quid pro quo Council. You may also note that John D'Amico has signed the petition to support the placement of Measure C onto the March ballot. Just my thoughts, but I think it always helps to have information. Cause information is knowledge!
Robert Zabb January 31, 2013 at 10:30 PM
Unfortunately terms limits is not the answer. The real problem is the Weho city counsel does not fully have the level of sophistication needed to administer a city as critically located as West Hollywood. There is too much money involved in development for a city this size, leaving it subject to incredible manipulation--witness the city counsel approving the Movietown plaza development. The whole city was a pigeon and the city counsel was obviously manipulated by the developer who soon thereafter declared bankruptcy. Unfortunately, I don't see that any of the alternate candidates have a higher level of smarts, in fact they seem less able than the incumbents. We need more serious, more educated and worldly people on the city counsel even though it's such a small city, and attracting the right people is the real problem, not term limits.
meister4weho January 31, 2013 at 11:54 PM
The LGBT community should be enraged at Stonewall's vote to oppose Measure C. Isn't it a well-known fact that term limits has helped open doors for the gay and lesbian community, women and minorities?
Riley February 01, 2013 at 12:40 AM
YES on C …AND also vote the incumbents out. It is time for change and in 12 years it will be time for change again. The 42 members of a "club" who voted on this do NOT represent me or the majority of people in West Hollywood. Thank you to the people who had the courage and took the time and energy to fight the fight and get this on the ballot. We need to elect people who are not bought and paid for by real estate developers. (See Wehoville’s article “Real Estate Interests Are Biggest West Hollywood City Council Campaign Donors”). We need to elect people who do not have lobbyists for campaign managers, and if elected, then have those same lobbyists bringing development projects to the council knowing they are owed a favor. For anyone to say that their decisions as council members would not be affected by those who got them elected is at best, delusional, and at worst a lie. Yes on CHANGE. Change of how things are run around this small town. YES ON C…YES ON C…YES ON C…YES ON C…YES ON C.
Adam Fischer February 01, 2013 at 08:10 AM
Infinite terms do nothing but encourage corruption in politics and further entrench us all in bureaucracy. We need to do everything we can as voters to ensure that neither Republican, Democrat, nor Independents have limitless office, if for no other reason than to reduce corporate influence.
Rudolf Martin February 01, 2013 at 09:00 AM
well said, judson!
Adam Fischer February 01, 2013 at 06:11 PM
Agreed on the level of sophistication needed for elected officials, but terms limits would still be needed even if we had extremely educated and worldly candidates. Absolute power corrupts absolutely and what's more absolute than a public office with no sign of an exit?
Mike Dunn February 24, 2013 at 08:39 PM
Political parties should not get involved in local issues. Council members do not run as Democrats or Republicans but as citizens of West Hollywood only.


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