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UPDATE: 1 Pedestrian Killed, 1 Injured By Bus in West Hollywood

The victims are taken to Cedars-Sinai after the incident at Santa Monica Boulevard and Palm Avenue around 11:40 p.m. Monday.

UPDATE

One of two men struck by an MTA bus in West Hollywood succumbed to his injuries Tuesday morning, authorities said.

The men were struck in the 8800 block of Santa Monica Boulevard, at the intersection of Palm Avenue, around 11:40 p.m. Monday, said Sgt. Andrew Bedogne of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department's Transit Services Bureau.

The bus involved in the crash had been eastbound on Santa Monica Boulevard when the men were hit, Bedogne said.

The bus ended up with a cracked windshield, a news photographer reported from the scene.

The victims were taken to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, where one was pronounced dead and the other was in critical condition, Bedogne said.

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7878 February 05, 2013 at 10:28 PM
This is so typical of people who "think" like you. It is indisputable that mid-block crosswalks are safer than crosswalks at intersections. But you say it's "insane" that the city would install safer crosswalks. Abolish the safest option and install the most dangerous one, you say. Typical. If anyone is "insane," it's people like you - people who avoid all facts and logic and spend their lives chasing lawsuit jackpots.
me February 05, 2013 at 10:32 PM
another first time patch commenter so moved by this tragedy....my guess is that you think the 2 people even DESERVED it....i feel sad for you
Pete P February 05, 2013 at 10:55 PM
Since we are already talking about bad traffic planning in WeHo, can somebody please explain to me the purpose of the concrete median traffic barriers that WeHo has installed in the middle of certain streets throughout the city (Laurel, etc.)? Last week, I saw a woman crash into one as she swerved to avoid a car backing out of a driveway. To me, all they do is take up valuable road space and make it more dangerous to get around.
me February 05, 2013 at 11:16 PM
well 7878, you must be a real pleasure to know.....i won't respond to your BS, but here are some facts: (1) most of these locations are not well lit (2) the city finally responded to years of complaints by finally installing and "testing" these new flashing lights at only a few of the locations (3) many drivers speed, text and otherwise don't pay attention (they FLY up and down crescent hts) (4) yes, people should also make sure cars are stopped before risking their lives......all of this said, the city does in fact have a responsibility in all of this and they have FAILED.....you will see how things change as a result of this injury and death.....sad that the city didn't take it more seriously before now.....you can be as crass as you want to be, but one more FACT: family and friends weep at the loss of their dear friend today
me February 05, 2013 at 11:34 PM
they are supposed to slow down speeders according to the city.....hasn't changed a thing on laurel and hayworth....and the 2 roundabouts in the intersections were suppose to achieve the same thing, but people just blow thru the stop signs anyway...
NakedMan February 06, 2013 at 12:42 AM
7878 - Get a grip, you have no clue. Blame the victim I see. I know the 2 men that were hit, the man that was killed was over 80 years old and walked very slowly due to his age. They were crossing North to South, the bus hit them in the eastbound right lane. The rate of speed he walked they most likely entered into the crosswalk far before the bus even crossed over San Vicente. If his partner lives he, or either of their families, has every right to sue the holy hell out of the MTA. This death was completely avoidable and should be compensated for. Your assumptions and attitude kinda make me sick to my stomach.
E. Hollywood February 06, 2013 at 02:54 AM
The loudest way for City Officials to listen is to SUE, SUE, SUE. If that fails, tax paying city residents should rally the City Hall with signs, banners and chants to demand change. Last resort, vote the current administration out of office and replace them with people understand that safe streets and crosswalks are a major concern. And finally....it is CA Law that any vehicle has to stop for a pedestrian whether they are in a crosswalk or not. As frustrating as that it, it's the law.
Bazoo February 06, 2013 at 05:18 AM
Wow, what an incredibly disgusting and insensitive comment. Granted many people are not careful when they cross but there are more than enough instances of near hits to call for improvements. If you're not aware of the facts regarding the accident you shouldn't make uninformed comments. I drive on Santa Monica Blvd multiple times every day and go through these cross walks. I cannot tell you how many times I stop only to have the car on the other side of me barrel through without stopping. It's nearly impossible for a pedestrian to see that other car while crossing into the intersection. I have gotten into the habit of automatically slowing down for these cross walks whether I see someone or not because sometimes it can be difficult to see people until you are very close especially at night. The only way to really solve this will be by adding additional stop lights so cars are forced to stop. There is absolutely no doubt that these cross walks are very dangerous especially at night.
Ali February 06, 2013 at 10:26 AM
Pedestrians have the right of way in california - for all you jerk transplants who think pedestrians shouldn't "jump" out into traffic in marked crosswalks. It is your respsonsibility to stop for pedestrians. So stop making this the pedestrians faulty. It is the drivers fault and nobody else's.
Insider February 06, 2013 at 05:31 PM
V C Section 21950 Right of Way at Crosswalks Right-of-Way at Crosswalks 21950. (a) The driver of a vehicle shall yield the right-of-way to a pedestrian crossing the roadway within any marked crosswalk or within any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection, except as otherwise provided in this chapter. (b) This section does not relieve a pedestrian from the duty of using due care for his or her safety. No pedestrian may suddenly leave a curb or other place of safety and walk or run into the path of a vehicle that is so close as to constitute an immediate hazard. No pedestrian may unnecessarily stop or delay traffic while in a marked or unmarked crosswalk. (c) The driver of a vehicle approaching a pedestrian within any marked or unmarked crosswalk shall exercise all due care and shall reduce the speed of the vehicle or take any other action relating to the operation of the vehicle as necessary to safeguard the safety of the pedestrian. (d) Subdivision (b) does not relieve a driver of a vehicle from the duty of exercising due care for the safety of any pedestrian within any marked crosswalk or within any unmarked crosswalk at an intersection.
scott ferguson February 07, 2013 at 05:43 PM
Further update - the BeverlyHillsPress this AM reports that as of Tues PM, the sheriff's dept had not yet determined whether those two people struck were in a crosswalk or whether they were jaywalking. Obviously the accident happened, and that's the important thing. But the posts earlier assuming it was in the crosswalk, increasing questions about their safety and possible city/MTA liability, seem to have been premature.
P. Martinez February 07, 2013 at 06:34 PM
Here is something to address aside for the obvious, the poor lit crosswalks. How about the fact 90% of bus drivers run red lights. That becomes a 2ton killing machine. Why when I see this all the time, do I NEVER see a bus driver getting a ticket for this dangerous act. I was almost hit, crossing Sweetzer I waited for the light to change about to step off the curb and an MTA bus runs the red light which they then speed up. It was so scary. TWO issues, someone help make this better!!!
Jim Brunner February 07, 2013 at 06:36 PM
People jaywalk there all the time. In fact they jaywalk all up and down Santa Monica Bl from one end of the city to the other. Maybe we should be more proactive and less forgiving of this offense. .
scott ferguson February 07, 2013 at 07:18 PM
Me: I live in a reality, fact-based world, not one in which every single event in WeHo is another reason to launch nasty attacks on the council. He is the relevant part of the article (which I found in print in the Beverly Press, which is delivered on Thursday with the LATimes), as well as the link to their website. <<The collision occurred around 11:45 p.m. near the intersection of Santa Monica Boulevard and Palm Avenue, according to Sgt. Andrew Bedogne, of the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department’s Transit Services Bureau. The bus was traveling eastbound when it struck the two victims, who were crossing Santa Monica Boulevard. Bedogne said it was unclear whether the pedestrians were in a crosswalk when they were struck, and the incident is being investigated by detectives from the West Hollywood Sheriff’s Station.>> http://parklabreanewsbeverlypress.com/news/2013/02/pedestrian-killed-in-bus-crash/
me February 07, 2013 at 07:41 PM
here we go again....scott just LOVES to be the naysayer...can you give us a link to this press?....a simple google search didn't produce anything....further, "nakedman" above says he knows the 2 men and the deceased moved very slowly.....the accident happened at santa monica and palm where a crosswalk is.....what is the likelihood that these 2 guys didn't use the crosswalk given these facts???.....yes, we don't know all of the details yet scott, but nobody can deny the fact that all of these crosswalks in weho without some type of warning device have been very dangerous, so as much as you'd like to dispute all of this, you can't dispute this fact....we have been talking about these dangerous crosswalks in our neighborhood meeting for months now and the city FINALLY is testing their blinking lights at 2-3 locations
me February 07, 2013 at 07:58 PM
well, i can't really confirm that you live in a reality based world at all.....many would dispute that for sure....and since your post is directed at Me, you'll notice the FACT that i didn't "launch nasty attacks on the council" in any of my posts above.....that's a FACT!!!
NakedMan February 07, 2013 at 08:31 PM
Scott, First - of the many reports online about the accident that is the only one that mentions that small fact and it still does not say that they were not in the crosswalk. Second - I know the 2 gentlemen and gentle were they God rest their souls. And since I was not there I cannot state what the true facts are and whether they were in the crosswalk or not. But this I can attest to, one was over 80 years old and moved very slowly, the other was his partner around 50. I would be very surprised if they were not in the cross walk since there is one right there, but even if they were not, they did not dart into traffic. I know enough about the accident that the bus driver was completely inattentive to his driving while driving a 10 ton machine that is lethal on impact to a human body even at the posted speed limit. I live in Hollywood and travel Hollywood Blvd by foot all the time. The speed limit on the Blvd is 25 miles per hour from La Brea to past Vine. I have had more than one occasion similar to what P. Martinez speaks of above. The buses are barreling down the Blvd far above the speed limit already and then accelerate to run a red light as I am stepping off the curb. I have seen it happen at both Cherokee and Whitley Ave's more than once. It is obvious that the only way they will listen and make changes to their drivers behavior is to hit them where it counts, in the pocket book. It is a pity that people have to die in the process.
Ali February 08, 2013 at 01:07 AM
Scott, I suggest you read the post above yours. Especially the part about marked or unmarked crosswalks. Why must you always be the fly in the soup?
Ali February 08, 2013 at 01:12 AM
I stopped using buses back in the 70s after being in accidents while on the bus three times in the span of a few months while I was a student at UCLA. Bus drivers are very aggressive and usually start before the light turns green and will speed up to beat a red light. I don't trust them in any way.
Ricardo Torres February 08, 2013 at 12:49 PM
Both men will be dead as one will have the plug pulled. This is as bad as it gets and bus drivers must, must slow down when 'out of service'. Out of Service should not mean out of time or out of mind. Please, I know your shift is over but slow the hell down.
Jan Michael Foster February 08, 2013 at 02:17 PM
These buses are always running the red light by Gelsons at the Flores light. I cross there a lot. Its about time the Sheriff started focusing on protecting the citizens from real harm instead of sending 3 patrol cars to a street corner where an obviously indigent person is being handcuffed and questioned!
Cino February 08, 2013 at 03:07 PM
NO! Your issue is; as a driver you are required to be alert for people ENTERING a defined crosswalk! NOT to speed up to pass it before they get across. TRUST ME...hit a pedestrian in a crosswalk in California and you will pay a very steep price. They have the right-a-way period. One foot in that cross walk REQUIRES you to STOP...end of story as far as the law is concerned.
George February 08, 2013 at 08:08 PM
Shame on these bus drivers not paying attention or being angry at pedestrians for simply crossing the street. I ride my bike and by the way these bus drivers operate these huge buses, they act like that want to run bike riders over like this driver did to these two pedestrians. This bus drivers needs to be charged for manslaughter for killing this man and injuring the other one. ONLY then will these bus drivers learn the consequence to there deadly driving.
Suzanne Myers February 10, 2013 at 01:40 AM
For those of you who think people are money hungry thats not the case for us. This was actually my innocent 81 year old uncle that was hit and killed by the bus. No amount of money is worth his life. With this being said the city and bus company are responsible for his death. There is no way that he would remotely try to jaywalk or play with death. He wasnt some teenager playing games. Drivers need to be more aware of their surroundings and people walking as in any state pedestrians have the right of way in a crosswalk. We all learned this in DRIVERS EDUCATION class. For those drivers who dont know or remember this their license needs to be revoked. We are a family that is now planning a funeral across the country literally for some innocent man who deserved to live longer. We appreciate those who have prayed for our family and we will pray for those who think we are money hungry.
Ali February 10, 2013 at 02:40 AM
You have my sincere condolences on the loss of your Uncle, Suzanne.
George February 10, 2013 at 05:14 AM
I blame the bus driver. Most are REALLY nice and competent drivers but sometime the drivers are full of rage!!! MTA need to have there people ride the bus just as regular bus riders and grade these drivers every so often to see first hand how they behave and more importantly drive the bus.
Mack Fleetwood February 10, 2013 at 06:48 AM
Totally agree. I have lived in W. Hollywood -- on Palm Ave., no less -- fro over a decade and I NEVER use those $#@! crosswalks. I ahve always said the exact same thing you wrote above. These crosswalks are ridiculous. In Venice, the crosswalks like up, too, like they do in Glendale near the Americana and where there's heavy traffic. These crosswalks on Santa Monica also have big plants and trees in the meridian, causing further obstruction of the pedestrians using the crosswalk. I have seen numerous accidents, people getting hit in those crosswalks, and I mean a lot over the past decade or so. I walk over a block or two -- or 10 -- to get to a crosswalk with a traffic signal -- and even THAT'S dangerous in this town!
George February 10, 2013 at 07:22 AM
We need to get a petition for more controlled street lights up and down Santa Monica Blvd. They have many lights in Beverly Hill and in West Los Angeles. People speed down Santa Monica like it's a freeway.
Cino February 10, 2013 at 02:10 PM
This section of SM is FULL of pedestrians at all hours of the day and night. It was the duty of the driver to be aware of this and operate accrodingly. We now have loss of life...that is staggering! Something must be done and we need to hold the city and the MTA feet to the fire until it is safe to cross a street. Those cross walks are a joke at night. Perhaps we should make it so the City Council is forced to cross them a few times a month to get to work at all hours of the night and day. Bet you'd see some fast changes then.
Cino February 10, 2013 at 02:12 PM
You are on the money Paul! I would sign it in a heart beat!~

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