Gay Marriage Supporters in Weho Cheer Ruling on Prop. 8

Hundreds of gay couples and community leaders march from the new Weho library, welcoming the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals' decision.

Hundreds gathered for a rally in West Hollywood on Tuesday night in support of the that affirmed the unconstitutionality of California's ban on same-sex marriage.

Mayor John Duran was all smiles as city officials and community members converged in the auto court of the new West Hollywood Library on San Vicente Boulevard. The triumphant crowd cheered and waved rainbow flags.

"I think what's important for the community to think about is that [while] this is an important day, this is a lifetime struggle. It's a marathon," Duran told Patch. "It's a big step forward, but not the end of the race."

John Lincoln, who braved traffic from San Fernando Valley to make it to the rally, was one of more than 300 proudly raising "It's Time For Marriage Equality" signs made by Love Honor Cherish—an organization dedicated solely to the repeal of Prop. 8 that organized the Weho event.

"When I heard the news this morning, I thought this could be a unifying moment for us," Lincoln said. "When Prop. 8 passed, it splintered our community. We should be working as a single unit, exploring every option available to us."

NoH8 founder Adam Bouska, longtime LGBT rights activist Diane Abbit, gay rights lawyer Jon Davidson, and Rev. Dr. Neil Thomas spoke to the attendees before the march.

Thomas, the senior pastor at the Metropolitan Community Church in Los Angeles, riled up the crowd with an enthusiastic speech.

"You are just as loved as anyone in this country," he yelled out. "We need to remember that today's victory means there is still work to do."

Around 6:30 p.m., West Hollywood Sheriff's deputies guided the group across San Vicente Boulevard and up to Santa Monica Boulevard. People driving by honked in support as the troupe braced a bit of drizzle and walked eastbound to Westbourne Drive and back toward the library.

After the rally dispersed about 7:30 p.m., the crowd spilled out onto the West Hollywood streets to celebrate.

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David February 08, 2012 at 03:19 PM
This is good news indeed,but the only thing that could ruin this good news is if the Pope's court,a.k.a.The Supreme Court rules in favor of Prop.8.If that happens we might as well throw the Constitution in the garbage.
joninla February 08, 2012 at 03:53 PM
I am far left of being a good liberal, and even I can say our Supreme Court of The United States is not as right wing religious puppets as you and many people think. Don't get me wrong, there are some names justices who could be fairly characterized as far worse than your overall judgment, but I am not going to point fingers at Scalia - not because I am afraid or too polite ... His open hatred for the belief gay people have any right to any kind of equality is well and often repeated in his written formal opinions that it's fact. But don't give up faith. Surprising things have come from an even more conservative court than our relatively unique diversity (for the first time in U.S. History.) If you want to direct hate - direct it at the true people who deserve it for their betraying both their own gay community, and their own basic civil rights, and even the possible reversion to criminalizing being gay - by sticking with the poker up the tight ones and voting for any Republican (ever) for President for stupid to just irrational reasons that is in essence or a kin to a very ethnic Jew Rallying for Hitler during WWII (since they had come for them ... yet). (I crossed the line in the comparison to Hitler - but in reality, the president chooses replacement to our aging court, and with the radical right being the only true Republicans, a Log Cabin Republican is hurting themselves even more than the basic rights of all gay people, and i can not get past that opinion.
Wendy February 08, 2012 at 07:10 PM
WeHo is going up against the Supreme Court that just Ruled in Favor of the Westboro Chuch. That's a steep mountain to climb.
Paul February 08, 2012 at 07:20 PM
I personally don't understand the excitement about this? I meet unhappily married straight men all the time. Being gay for me is being free and not bound down by the same pressures to marry like my straight brothers. This gay me doesn't care if marriage is legal or not. It's a non issue.
Brian Hamilton February 08, 2012 at 07:31 PM
@David: That won't likely happen if the system works as it should. Judge Walker's well crafted opinion is based on many findings of fact, citing numerous US Supreme Court decisions-- most notably Loving v. Virginia. Too many whining theocrats and religious fanatics failed to understand that the USA is NOT a democracy. It's a constitutional republic. A democracy is: 2 wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner... The Constitution was designed to prevent tyranny of the majority. If civil rights were to be determined by a vote of the majority--slavery would still exist, women couldn't vote, blacks couldn't marry whites, and Prop 8 would be law in California. It matters not what anyone's religious cult dictates. No citizen's civil rights, guaranteed under the equal protection clause of the US Constitution, may be abrogated by popular vote.
Wendy February 08, 2012 at 09:39 PM
I think the issue that the voters cannot undo a law that was previously enjoyed is a weak argument. The problem is it was not enjoyed very long. Before that it was against the law. Am I missing something? If CA anti 8 takes this argument to the supreme court they are going to get body slammed. I am all for the right to marry anyone you want but I wish they would find a better argument for a case to make.
Brian Hamilton February 08, 2012 at 09:58 PM
@Wendy: since you seem to take an interest in this subject, I would strongly suggest you avail yourself of all the facts concerning the trial, it's evidence, and current standing. It's all available here: http://www.prop8trialtracker.com/ In response to your statement above: "CA anti 8" is not taking this "argument to the Supreme Court." The proponents of Prop 8 may appeal the case to the Supreme Court, which historically decides to hear only one percent of the cases brought to its attention.
Wendy February 08, 2012 at 10:18 PM
I think this will go to the Supreme Court. Lets not play word games and stick to the issue here. If this goes to the Supreme Court they better come up with some better arguments. Your argument is completely offensive to Black Americans. To Equate the black struggle of 400 years of slavery with an argument that the word Civil Union Vs. Marriage is the same as 400 years of beat downs and torture is absurd. Is the Gay Community going to pitch this to Clarance Thomas? A better argument is straight and narrow. We deserve the right to marry and call it marriage just like a woman and a man does. This is hard to argue with. When you start going into Slavery and losing prior enjoyment of enjoyment you only had for 18 months this is where you lose your case. I am all for Gay Marriage. I just see the anti 8 people totally losing this case if they go before Clarance with somehow trying to compare this to slavery which you do. It's borderline racist and offensive. I am on your side. When you go to a Lawyer they will also tell you the truth. They will tell you if your position sucks or not and try to find a better approach.
Brian Hamilton February 08, 2012 at 10:36 PM
MY argument is offensive? Excuse me? To whom are you addressing that response, Wendy? I made no such argument. Don't play word games with ME. And get your facts straight if you'd like to continue a conversation about the issues.
Brian Hamilton February 08, 2012 at 10:40 PM
@Wendy: your previous long-winded,schizophrenic diatribe is clear evidence that you don't have a modicum of understanding of the decision of Judge Vaughn Walker. In short, you have no idea what you're talking about. So, either read up on the factual information surrounding this case or put a plug in your pie hole. I am not willing to continue to encourage such idiotic banter .
joninla February 09, 2012 at 02:35 AM
Brian - I am not getting involved, but would like to point out that often here on Patch, comments in general are misconstrued. When there is a back and fourth among 2 people, the ability that it can be correctly followed by either the 2 people doing the back and forth as well as everyone else passing by, through, across or often a posting gets associated with a totally unrelated person. I do actually appreciate another person who has an understanding and vernacular used in the legal profession. Again (from countless mistakes to make a generally understandable "Legal Issue" also understandable to a person (not less smart, not inferior, not stupid, not 'lower than me') who just was not trained in the language and meaning of legal terms as well as words that are (for lawyers) 'words of art' - the actually mean something very specific and that association is just not made by anyone who didn't suffer through a legal education. I know SQUAT about a lot of other topics, and have appreciated the input by someone who actually knows something about the field. (for example, a 30 year cab driver corrected a post I made about Taxi Licensing and I thanked him and asked if he would explain a taxi industry process (just for example). Personally, I would love to skip whatever I missed, and hear what your thoughts and opinions are. I may have to ask for clarification, but I generally have a full legal vernacular and understanding. :)
joninla February 09, 2012 at 02:47 AM
I saw somewhere a reference that less than 1% of cases ever are heard by the US Supreme court. In case someone may have seen it, I can confirm that way less than 1% of cases ever go. But if anyone saw and thought that the Gay Rights Issue would be part of a game of chance or luck, and the odds (statistically are low) should not even apply that figure to this issue. The Supreme Court Chooses which cases it will hear. The likelihood of a case being chosen depends on many factors. However a Super Hot Topic Issue and Pending Confligration of a total change in social structure and thinking is not only ususally a guarantee to be chosen, but it will be chosen immediately, if the court see it as a country wide issue dominating the lives of the collective american consciousness. We are on that ledge of fundemental social change for the better in ending discrimination against gay people, so within a couple years I think there will be some kind of decision coming from the US Supreme Court (it may or may not be derived from this "Prop 8" and California's Supreme Court Initial Ruling .... but 'odds' are we are looking at what will probably become the definitive case one day. This may be the "roe v wade" that will define or redefine the rights of gay people to equality under the US Constitution.
joninla February 09, 2012 at 07:22 PM
Let's hope there isn't a catastrophic disaster that leaves us with a Republican President and a court with the potential of losing up to 3-4 Justices from age/illness and a new court is formed that does not believe or understand what you so clearly explained the reality of what is to come.
joninla February 09, 2012 at 07:27 PM
I am only addressing one point. To think Justice Clarence Thomas would have any expected reaction to perceived offensive words, think again. He is black, he is on the Surpreme Court and he was put there BY THE REPUBLICANS who found 'thier kind of black man' (don't chastise me for that paraphrased quote. It was said just recently by one of the Republican Candidates and shows how the Republicans feel about race and why Clarnence was 'their kind of black guy' - i.e. he sold out his race).
Mark Hetherington June 05, 2012 at 05:52 PM
Big thanks to Adam Bouska and Jeff Parshley for their amazing grassroots effort, NOH8 Project, that has grown to a multi-national movement to overturn Prop 8 and provide full Marriage Equality. I am so proud of their efforts, talent, and passion that has paid off for us all. Congratulations Adam and Jeff!
Paul June 06, 2012 at 07:51 AM
I'm a gay man and I still think it looks strangely unnatural seeing to men hold hands in public. It looks so gay which it is, dah. Maybe it's just my perception?I've never been a militant gay man who feel discriminated against for what I do in the pricey of my bedroom. Who cares?
Paul June 06, 2012 at 07:52 AM
My bad! I meant privacy.
joninla June 06, 2012 at 02:32 PM
really? I guess there are different experiences both being gay and living out and open in weho. When I see visitors/tourist walking down the street holding hands in public (probably the first or one of the few times in their lives/relationships where they were in a location where they did not have to fear common personal affection) I remember what it used to be like being gay in a much more hostile world where it was common to walk down SMB and be called a 'fag' by a bunch of a holes driving by in a car. I especially like when TV shows have small side characters who just are gay, do nothing that any straight couple would do, and doesn't affect the story the show tells. Game of Thrones - I loved the sudden arrival of 'the gay king' and was bummed he was killed off so quickly. But seems nobody last long on that show before being knocked-off. Being gay for me has very little to do with the bedroom and has everything to do with just living my life being who I am and not facing hate for it, or knowing so many are so afraid they are living a closeted life somewhere alone and in private, are more and more able to no longer fear being exposed and hated for doing nothing wrong.
Paul June 06, 2012 at 05:45 PM
Men acting gay in public is embarrassing and a turn off. The gay characters on the hit ABC series "Modern Family" are funny (sometimes) but being a gay man, it is NOT away I would prefer to be depicted or represented. Why can't gay men act normal like straight guys? Instead they build there bodies up and yet act like fem men...... I don't get it?
GoodGriefCharlieBrown June 06, 2012 at 06:44 PM
Paul you are obviously very embarrassed & ashamed of your own homosexuality and what you see is a reflectoin of what you resent in yourself. Everyone has a right to be themselves at all times and that includes behavior that you might not consider "normal". I don't think all gay men in public are trying to "turn you on" or "turn you off", in fact my guess is that they couldn't care less about you and how you feel because they are not as self hating & insecure as you seem to be. You should try to find peace with who you are even if it takes some therapy. Self hatred is not an uncommon affliction with gay men and you seem to be a case study on the subject. If people in public aren't bothering you, then don't bother them. You seem to be the type who would snicker & make sick jokes about an effeminate gay man in public, even as there is probably enough to make people snicker & laugh about yourself. Fortunately, most people are decent enough to publicly respect those among us who are condidered "different", even as your hostile attitude leads me to believe there is plenty about you that is "different" as well.
Paul June 07, 2012 at 04:21 PM
Nope, not at all embarrassed by my sexuality. It's a non issue. I just don't understand militant gays who cry fowl at everything just to make noise. Get over it already!!! Why in 2012 we have to have every city put on a gay pride parade for gays to get high and drunk every years is another thing I don't understand? Gay pride is a right to passage for a lot of young gays coming out but the whole meaning is lost on booze and drugs. It's a huge party weekend! The news reports drag queens and naked men in G-strings. That is what America see's and it is no wonder they fear gays and the lifestyle. It would scare me to if I had small children. As a parent no one wants there kids exposed to that or God forbid become someone like that. A person can be gay and live a normal life without the outrageous, drunken behavior gay pride promotes so heavily.
GoodGriefCharlieBrown June 07, 2012 at 07:51 PM
"Militant gays" paved the way for cowards like you to live without fear of prejudicial treatment & discrimination, even as you publicly annouce your hatred of them & yourself. And you speak for parents? Your ignorance knows no bounds. What do you think is a "normal" life? If you are normal, then everyone else is nuts. Keep shooting your mouth off, next it will be your foot, and next...
Brian Hamilton June 07, 2012 at 11:09 PM
Paul: Someone needs to buy you a magazine rack. For all your issues.
GoodGriefCharlieBrown June 08, 2012 at 01:53 AM
Paul, I refer you to today's L.A. Times (Thur. June 7, 2012, Page AA6) "Gay teens report more unhappiness. They worry about which hall they should walk down at school...and whether they need to hide their identity from their family." (Chad Griffin, Human Rights Campaign President.) I would like to respond in kind to your posts: I see in your picture, you are trying to flaunt your aging biceps, obviously oblivious to how ridiculous and queeny you look. There is nothing more disgusting than an old queen who tries to look like a twink in public and thinks they're actually succeeding. If you want to know who is a public embarrassment to other gay people, look in the mirror. It is tired old judgemental queens like you who are contributing to the violence and hate crimes agains gay men & women. You don't even make a convincing bully. If you are too angry, insecure and filled with self hate to help, try to control your evil old queen urge to attack and hurt other gay people. I find young gay men much more attractive when they are being themselves than shriveled up old queens such as yourself who actually think they are masculine and have no idea how blatnently flamboyant they are. Do you have chains in your closet? You're not pulling it off, Mary.
joninla June 08, 2012 at 08:38 AM
"militants" of any cause/issue actually play a very important role. For example, when ACT UP was first created and going to far with 'militant' and violent protests, I was actually really angry, believing they were doing more harm than any good to the cause of just making the AIDS crisis known and acknowledged. Since that time, although I still don't think any protest should be 'militant', but I am usually in the vast majority of people who agree, I can see how the FEW 'militant protestors' of a cause are important to the real issue. Back again with ACT UP, there was not even an acceptance of any Gay group. But because of the events, including the over the top 'militant' Act Up, suddenly the Human Rights Campaign (HRC) suddenly looks from the perspective of 'haters' as a much more desirable and acceptable organized group to begin a dialogue .... Which has really progress up to what is such a great moment and act by Obama. HRC these days is so large, strong and apart of the process, they are beginning to look like someday very soon, they will be indistinguishable from the other major Lobbying Groups who sometimes get too much power and lose sight of their goal. Meanwhile, all gay people now live in a Country with fewer threats, less violence, increased self-acceptance and so on .... People who don't/can't take part are just as worthy of the benefits of whatever others 'needed' to do. Gratitude to the predecessors of our generation is common.
joninla June 08, 2012 at 08:44 AM
I just don't think calling people who didn't participate a coward is fair or accurate. People do whatever they can. Some people can do more than others. For whatever reason someone may not have actively participated in any movement should not cause them to have the additional label of 'coward' put on them. But I do agree, and we all owe the entire start of the gay equality movement to those drag queens being dragged out of the Stonewall bar and put in the Paddy Waggon. In their heels and boots, they had suffered enough, and they (the drag queens many gay people think are gays-gone-too-far or worse) said no more and fought the police, risking their lives and creating what we enjoy (and all to often take for granted as being this accepted outside of weho) and owe a lifetime of appreciation to those NY Drag Queens. :)
Paul June 08, 2012 at 02:34 PM
Good grief Charlie Brown! I think I know who you are which would explain why you would take this personal. You ONLY make my point more clear at how gay people react to those who disagree with there cause. Name calling is childish. Sticks & stones........ The gay community for me is NOT a community I have ever understood or support. Most of the gay people I associate with are people who share my feelings. Not every gay person cares about gay marriage. It use to be the most vocal were nasty, militant gays who like to make a lot of noise about non sense. I personally don't support gay marriage but if gay people want to get married I wish they would be allowed to so they would just shut the "F" up about it already!
Paul June 08, 2012 at 02:46 PM
Name calling what people do when they have nothing to add to the topic. Just for the record though my aging biceps could snap Charlie Brown's neck any day.


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