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Plastic Bag Makers Respond to Weho Ban

A group that represents plastic bag manufacturers questions bans in West Hollywood and nearby municipalities.

Plastic bag manufacturers criticized West Hollywood's ban of the industry's product that went into effect Wednesday for large retailers.

The American Progressive Bag Alliance represents the United States’ plastic bag manufacturing and recycling sector, which employs 30,800 workers in 349 communities across the nation, including nearly 2,000 in California.

"West Hollywood’s plastic bag ban will not only hurt consumers’ pockets but also push them toward less sustainable alternatives," alliance Chairman Mark Daniels said in a statement. "Paper bags are a worse environmental option at checkout—using a large amount of water and emitting more greenhouse gases than plastic bags, and reusable bags cannot be recycled and are predominately imported from China."

Daniels also claimed reusable bags have also been found to host dangerous bacteria such as the stomach flu virus.

"Those interested in real solutions should consider the facts and not pass policies that hurt families and, ironically, the environment in the name of 'feel good' legislation," he added. "Instead they should look at increasing recycling programs that address all forms of plastic bags, sacks and wraps, building on a decade of progress in recycling."

The West Hollywood City Council approved an ordinance enacting the ban last summer.

Supermarkets and retailers larger than 10,000 square feet had to comply with the ban as of Wednesday. Smaller retailers and supermarkets must comply by Aug. 20.

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Weho Over Developed February 23, 2013 at 12:12 AM
If you have a cat plastic bags are perfect. I refuse every single one of them. How about people consider not over-populating? That would kind of help with environmental issues not to mention over-crowding and crime.
Christian Morrision February 23, 2013 at 12:25 AM
Bye bye bags!
RTL February 23, 2013 at 03:25 AM
This bag tax for the middle class and poor is the single worse law ever passed in this town. It's slowing down check out lines, adding to waste and unsanitary conditions w/ cheap canvas bags filled w/ germs, etc. Shame on you "feel good" lawmakers; there is nothing about his law that 'feels good', it feels like being duped with an average costs of 10.00-20.00 a month depending on how often you shop and if you need double bags.
George February 23, 2013 at 04:11 AM
As I stated yesterday that the ban on plastic bags that West Hollywood foolishly has taken away from it's residence who patronize the local super markets etc....... rock & roll Ralph'son Sunset is not part of West Hollywood thus it's plastic as per usual at that famous Ralph's super market. The Ralph's on Fountain & Labrea is in WH city limits so get ready to start paying of big bulky paper bags if you shop there. "Pavillions" in West Hollywood is to expensive anyway.
Weho Over Developed February 23, 2013 at 04:12 AM
Developers in bed with city council. We all know it.
George February 23, 2013 at 04:12 AM
The reusable ugly plastic bags carry germs and cause sickness.
Insider February 23, 2013 at 07:31 AM
Nothing makes a WeHo city council person happier than being able to ban something.
David February 23, 2013 at 03:01 PM
Plastic bags are good for picking up dog poop from grassy areas and sidewalks.
brad February 23, 2013 at 03:36 PM
I saw at Pavilions in the self checkout last night lots of gooey messes from putting your food down because you have to ask for bags. Honestly its just a pain, yeah its ten cents for paper, but then it doesn't work as well as plastic that I used for garbage for years, and to protect food. I have reusable, but the thought of mixing cereal, bread, anything that you might touch and then adding fresh meat, sealed or not bothers me to say the least. I imagine I might have just put my meat down just like everyone else while checking out not thinking about it touching the same area that is being used over and over.
George February 23, 2013 at 04:53 PM
Absolutely! It is unsanitary! These council members who voted to ban plastic are out of control and determined to ruin to simple things we take for granted. Let the beach cities ban plastic but leave the cities away from the shore alone. These council members want us all to get sick apparently by contamination of of food purchases? Remember these measure made by these council members who are up for re-election. Strike back and oust them. If you are mad as hell them this is a good time to do something about it. Also, remember rock & roll "Ralph's has plastic as per usual as they are not part of the West Hollywood ban. Not sure for how long though? I've been stock piling on plastic the last few months . I would urge other to do the same. Avoid shopping at "Pavillion" when possible. If there business drops puerhaps they will appeal the absurd ban WH has placed on plastic bags?
me February 23, 2013 at 06:10 PM
lets BAN the council....starting with "frick & frack" (prang/duran)....they've done enough damage and it'll take years to untangle the mess they've left in their wake....if this were ancient times, we'd round them up and.... .....awe nevermind, you get the idea :-)
WonderBoy February 23, 2013 at 06:38 PM
I like to use plastic bags. And, I save them for walking the dog. I wonder how much of a dick I'm going to look like when I bring my own plastic bags with me to Ralph's?
George February 23, 2013 at 07:02 PM
You don't have to bring plastic bags to the rock & roll Ralph's on Sunset as for now they have plastic bags. They are not part of the West Hollywood ban. Everyone shop there for now on.
WonderBoy February 23, 2013 at 07:22 PM
I'll grab some plastic bags from RnR's so I'll have some on hand for any Ralph's I walk into.
Lyndia Lowy February 23, 2013 at 07:28 PM
Cloth bags have germs? WASH them, just like the cloth dish towels you use (or do you only use paper there, too?). Fresh fruit & veggies will still have plastic bags available, and you can put your fresh meat in one, too. If you need to use those for your dog, double up (use 2 at a time). It just takes a little thinking.....
George February 23, 2013 at 07:28 PM
Good idea! I save my plastic bags now and have for several months since I heard about the ban West Hollywood.
tuffythe first February 23, 2013 at 07:32 PM
Goodness. Just get the washable nylon bags. They bunch up to be about 2 inches in diameter and you can toss them in the wash. Can't we just grow up?
me February 23, 2013 at 07:37 PM
haha....i just tell my upsatirs maid to have one of the downstairs maids do my shopping as it's all beneath me quite frankly
WonderBoy February 23, 2013 at 09:15 PM
I wonder if I'm all grown up? I kinda feel grown up. Have I reached that dignified age yet where I'm free to choose what's appropriate for me based on my own trusted knowledge/wisdom? Or, do I want to hand that choice over to someone else who can force me down the road most travelled? Where do we find these angels to organize society for us? I wouldn't even trust myself to handle that.
Chloe Ross February 24, 2013 at 01:16 AM
If a ban is going to be enacted - the research into its ramifications should be researched thoroughly. The Little Rascals have no clue how to do this part. Among other things.
David February 24, 2013 at 03:20 AM
I was in Ralph's on La Brea this afternoon.They have plastic bags in the produce section but cashiers cannot bag customers purchases in plastic bags.Also as stated by another poster,if you have plastic bags at home,use them to bag your own groceries at this Ralph's if this is where you usually shop.
George February 24, 2013 at 04:02 AM
it's therock & roll Ralph's on Sunset that is not part of the silly West Hollywood ban on plastic. The one on Labrea is part of that stupid ban.
WonderBoy February 24, 2013 at 04:05 AM
Ah, the beauty and truth of free market capitalism and consumer inginuity! God bless the gloriously obtuse do-gooders. They are so great and useful when they're unintended consequences are revealed to us few. We HAPPY few! I show up with my plastic bags at Ralph's. they gladly fill my bags, But get this: they grant me 5 Ralph's points per bag :). I, of course, double bag. (Tho from now in you can call me Capt Quadbag). I can use those points to save $.20/gallon at Shell. I thought I might have to cut back on buying gasoline for my guzzler. Phew! There's such balance in nature. In ridiculous, misguided, knee-jerk, artless progressive human nature. A kiss to my west Hollywood city council. A kiss from the 'little guy." Thank you for inadvertently looking out for me on this St. Crispin's Day!
lala in la February 24, 2013 at 07:01 PM
Are you serious about reusable bags causing sickness? That is soooooo dumb. Do you think your gym bag carrirs bateria? How about your purse??? Just wash your bags every once in a while. There is nothing worse than a stupid arguement. If you just simply prefer plastic than say so. Dont make up stupid arguements to validate your point! Ps santa monica did just fine with the ban.... Arent there more important issues within our city to discuss...
George February 24, 2013 at 07:50 PM
Grocery stores have a lot of germs on the carts and baskets. To carry a filthy reusable bag and place the items I purchase in it is just asking for a stomach sickness. As I mentioned previously reported the famous rock & roll "Ralph's" on Sunset is not part of the West Hollywood ban on plastic so, for now anyway you will find plastic as per usual there.
WonderBoy February 24, 2013 at 08:15 PM
We must recognize science where science is. An argument is a collection of reasonings and hopefully science to make a point. Saying an idea is 'so dumb' is a clumsy start, but acceptable if you then refute the idea with science. I like your premise that gym bags and purses have germs. Makes sense to me. And, I think it's worth checking for a study of purse bacteria. I think the bacteria in or on a purse won't be comparable in danger to e-coli or noro-virus. But, that's my opinion, not scientific research. I don't think it's a 'so dumb' argument. I carry very little raw chicken in my purse. I frankly don't care very much about the 5.5 more e-coli deaths a year that are likely from the cloth bags. I'll take those odds. I like the plastic bags tho. I also know the cloth ones come with a very nominal amount of death and illness. There's nothing worse than a stupid argument? I think calling an argument stupid to avoid engaging in -- it makes you look, well...
WonderBoy February 24, 2013 at 08:17 PM
http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-04/the-disgusting-consequences-of-liberal-plastic-bag-bans.html
FactoryDIrectPromos February 25, 2013 at 04:42 PM
It continues to amaze me how these plastic bag manufacturers continue to fight and whine instead of changing their business model. Take a look at this map and tell me oyu think the world is going to stop making progress toward a healthier tomorrow!! http://www.factorydirectpromos.com/plastic-bag-bans The problems with single use plastic bags are well documented.
WonderBoy February 25, 2013 at 09:13 PM
I agree with that. I'd like to see plastic bags made biodegradable, like the green plastic water bottles. I don't know the cost, but there might be a market for those?

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