D'Amico Calls for Revamp of Weho's Annual Gay Pride Festival
Councilman John D'Amico says many residents have complained to him about the annual event's 'lack of quality.'
The annual Gay Pride parade and festival held every June in West Hollywood will get a serious revamp if Councilman John D’Amico gets his way. At Monday night’s City Council meeting, he called for changes to the event put on by Christopher Street West.
“There’s been a lot of private conversations to me about the lack of quality in that event,” D’Amico said during opening comments at the City Council meeting. “I think there is a serious disconnect for a lot of people on that event.”
Residents and visitors alike have long complained about the event, often calling it “lame.” Some people have said it doesn’t come close to the standards one would expect for a gay pride event held in the movie-making capital of the world, especially with so many creative people living in the region.
D’Amico said he did not expect changes to be made for the June 2012 event since it is only six months away, but did want to see a serious revamp of the event by June 2013. He called for representatives of Christopher Street West to come to the next City Council meeting and give a report on their plans.
“I think with 18 months, we could begin to address some of the bigger concerns about where that event is falling down in terms of what many people in the community have come to me about,” D’Amico said.
Rodney Scott, executive director of Christopher Street West, was not present at the time D’Amico made his comments, but was on hand before the meeting ended. Afterward, Scott and D’Amico were observed having a long conversation on the sidewalk outside the library.
The first gay pride parade in the area was held in June 1970, a year after the Stonewall Riots in New York City, which is considered the beginning of the modern gay rights movement. That first parade went down Hollywood Boulevard, but did not start until 7 p.m. when children were safely off the streets.
A few years later, the parade moved to Santa Monica Boulevard, with an accompanying festival held in West Hollywood Park, where it has been held ever since. The city estimates the parade and festival attract 300,000 people each year.
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Jerome Cleary
11:25 am on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
1st move the Festival to a larger venue area as it's gotten really cramped unless you want to close off Melrose Avenue too from Robertson Blvd to La Cienega for the festival
Insider
11:39 am on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
Perhaps it is time to put the Pride event out for another vendor to bid on. If CSW isn't delivering what City Council wants, then let another company create a vision and present that package to be voted on.
Jerome Cleary
11:42 am on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
Can CSW and John D'Amico put together a Survey Monkey survey so we can all give our ideas and input?
joninla
1:16 am on Saturday, December 24, 2011
Really? The city take advice from the Residents? There's a first time for everything, maybe this time they will give people more than 2 minutes and then start to listen and take their input.
Paul
1:41 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
I first went to the gay pride parade in 1980. I was 18 years old and never seen anything like that ever. I saw old bosses and even a teacher from grade school. The floats if you will call them that have always been tacky. Most are trucks with hunky men dancing with no shirts or in G-strings. Some marching bands and different groups. I think that s what people want? I haven't good in a long time as it really is an excuse to get really smashed and perhaps get laid. A lot of the boys refer to gay pride weekend as a tweekend event. The real meaning is never considered. Mostly younger gays having one BIG party. I'm not sure changing it is important. Why bother? It still attracts thousands and brings the city a ton of money.
Steven Escobar
4:15 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
Christopher Street West/LA Pride is all about money. I have covered the event since 2003 to present and I notice some of the celebs are not big names of the industry and also the people the get the awards and recognition are board members friends. In 2011 our magazine Diversity News Magazine was nominated for an award and they decided to give the award to the same sponsor from prior year. So we decided not to provide any coverage to an organization the only wants to give awards to people the are giving them money or buying those recognition. If you would like a copy of the nomination I can provide to you. Please contact me directly at: editor@diversitynewsmagazine.com Thanks
Paul
4:30 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
The event could not handle a big name entertainer like say Lady Ga, Ga or even Madonna. Can you imagine the amount of people. It is already super crowded. Also, I feel they charge to much for the festival. SF doesn't charge that much.
Pastor Scott T. Imler
10:29 am on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
I don't ever recall San francisco having a cyclone fence around their festival. It's like checking into jail. And heaven forbid you should want to drink the event sponsor's beer.. for that you have to enter a second "Pelican Bay" of fences. In past years when these concerns about the Parade and Festival have arisen, the issues always seem to get muddled and before you know it we're condeming some fat white guy for his buttless chaps or blaming some less-than-fabulous drag queen for creating a "bad image" for the community. May the potential "REMAKEOVER" of the Parade be about bringing in morre "fabulousness "and not be about excluding anyone who feels called to express their pride and aspirations ,regardless of what the fashion police have to say about it. It's our WHOLE communities very special day. Pastor Scott
Steven Escobar
4:31 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
I am talking like Pepper MaShay who applied couple times and Recording Artist FAWN not Gaga.
Steven Escobar
4:58 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
Also to give the opportunity to Divas like Witney Houston, Irene Soderberg, Taylor Dane, Debby Holiday, Marion Ramsey. They are from LA and it will not be costly for CSW/LA to pay for their live performances.
Paul
11:00 pm on Tuesday, December 20, 2011
I really don't see how the gay pride parade could be revamped? It is what it is. I could see spending money on over hauling it if it was not the huge success it is every year but the old logic why fix something that isn't broken. Honestly, with Long Beach, San Diego, San Francisco and Palm Springs having almost identical celebrations is it anything except an excuse to get smashed and party all weekend? I think most gays who have been there and done that year in and year out probably don't even go or participate. There is always the die hards but it's mostly people between 18-40 year old.
kab1200
4:39 pm on Thursday, December 22, 2011
Paul, the article was about revamping the Pride festival, not the parade. The festival in Weho sucks. And, as someone else here stated, is overpriced. Other big cities do not charge to go at all! I have not been in years and years due to the escalating cost of entry, and it being the same old tired event. They should be looking to New York or San Fran for some inspiration. And let's get real, gays are always going to party, so that is just a given.
Todd Bianco
9:19 am on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
It's time for CSW's grip on the event to be abolished. Most big cities - SF, NYC come to mind - don't charge for the festival, only the events tied to it like dances and some of the entertainment. And somehow, other cities manage to find sponsors to pay for the general events.
For the past couple of years, I've suggested inviting some of the great food trucks we have in LA to provide the food for the festival. The food is much better and just the variety of foods, from cupcakes to Rounds Burgers would be a draw all on its own. CSW, as usual, turns a deaf ear. Then there are the choices for honorees and Grand Marshall, not to mention entertainment. In LA, we can't do better? For real? We are the entertainment capital of the world and the 2nd largest media market.
Then there are the financial bumblings of CSW. There have been problems over the years, hopefully straigtened out, but the most recent financial on CSW's website is from 2009. [The reason given is that CSW's year end is 12/31 and a non-profit's Form 990 isn't due, after all extensions, until Nov 15 of the next year. So, for example, the return for 2010 wasn't filed until Nov 15, 2011, so no 2010 financials are online yet.] They also don't like to provide multi-year comparison data.
Also missing are good spokespersons and a positive media message.
Time for a new producer. A for-profit one could do it better for less.
kab1200
4:42 pm on Thursday, December 22, 2011
Wow Todd, well said, and great ideas too! I contacted Rodney Scott about the event and the entry fees, and never heard back from him. I agee with your ideas, and your take on the whole thing!
west hollywould
3:00 pm on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
While we're at it, can we get rid of the name "Christopher Street West"? I've always found that to be rather offensive to L.A.'s own historical significance in the LGBT movement. I'm sure Christopher Street has little if any relevance to younger gays. In everything we do, we should be celebrating West Hollywood's amazing accomplishments, not living under the shadow of New York.
Todd Bianco
3:30 pm on Wednesday, December 21, 2011
I agree. Why do we still call it Christopher Street West? The website is LAPride.org, so why not just rename the entity? We are no longer the western outpost of NYC.
The City of West Hollywood should just put the entire event out to bid. You know, if Mr. Sanker can get top entertainment for the White Party, why can't we get it for the LA Pride event? And why can't we attract any national LGBT leaders or straight allies to give short speeches, to promote the current year theme (employment non-discrimination, marriage equality, bi-national couples, DOMA repeal, etc.) and give the media some real sound bites with articulate leaders (I know that may be asking too much, particularly of the "leaders" in the LA LGBT community).
Currently, any media outlet could run pictures from any past LA Pride event and no one would know the difference. Same shots of drag queens, scantily-clad go-go dancers, West Hollywood Cheerleaders, leather chaps, etc. All that is good and they are all part of our rainbow community; but we need to give the media the sound bites we want emphasized, from community or national leaders. Wouldn't it be great to hear someone like NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo speak about marriage equality? I bet that would make the news!
Paul
6:58 pm on Thursday, December 22, 2011
I thought I read that there was lack of creativity in the parade from a movie making capital.
kab1200
7:05 pm on Thursday, December 22, 2011
Well, they did not say, just the parade, but the whole event. I do think the parade used to be more interesting when real floats were used back in the day. I guess L.A.'s parade, from what I have heard, is more fluff and less serious. I think a good combo of both would be the way to go.
Paul
9:49 am on Friday, December 23, 2011
Gay men ONLY care about sex and half naked men in the back of a big flat bed truck suits there needs.
kab1200
6:04 pm on Friday, December 23, 2011
As true as that may be Paul, some like to acknowledge the issues as well. There is room for both I think. And not to be a dick, but it is "their needs" not, "there needs". Sorry, went to Catholic school!
Pastor Scott T. Imler
12:28 pm on Saturday, December 24, 2011
O.K. . I get it. Make the church-guy do it.
Fine then.
In my best Dan Ackroyd WEEKEND UPDATE voice, "Paul, your an ignorant slut." ;-)..:
joninla
12:35 pm on Saturday, December 24, 2011
Be that whomever he is, nonetheless, he has the right to give his opinions, no matter what others may feel. It's what makes the US what it is. Encouraging someone who is on a different train of thought, however, seems to place some responsibility for the back and forth non-productive arguments on the responder (to a large degree).
Pastor Scott T. Imler
1:13 pm on Saturday, December 24, 2011
Jon, Jon, Joninla. Easy tiger. It's an old Saturday Night lLive sketch. It was Ackroyd's standard response to Jane Cutrain's commentaries.
And despite having to don the hat of my professional authenticities in order that the absurditiy of Paul's assertion be met with a commensurate absurdity - merely for the record mind you -- I DON'T necessariily assume that Paul's comment or any of the responses to it constitute "Non-productive argument." In some ways Paul's point lies closer to the heart of the issue than much of the talk about divas, floats, and fences. What is the PRIDE Parade and Festival? Who does it belong to? Does it represent our greatest aspirations and values as a community - and what are those?
joninla
2:39 pm on Saturday, December 24, 2011
It was meant as a generalization to all the negative responses I just noticed pop into my email inbox.
My personal opinion about the issue being rehashed over and over again: I think Paul (and myself) having survived the horrific worst parts to the AIDS Epidemic and seen so many freinds and people die, makes thoes of us VICTIMS as well. Having watched freinds and loved ones not just pass away, but only after what was a horrifc long period of time of the worst and painful sickness.
As "victims" of the experience of the epidemic, sometimes we become very myopic to the actual experience of witnessing the losses, and living with the memory, that the slightest otherwise regular occurance could cause a major Post Traumatic Stress type of episode, which then is misconstured by people as some other irrational motivated speech.
It is not irrational to have such a strong need to express such feelings, if someone has lived through and with it.
(for example, if a family member was killed by a drunk driver, the entire Family is a victim of the incident, and for the remainder of everyone else in the family life, they will feel the pain as 'victims' of a drunk driver who took their son/daughter/parents life)
Overreacting to people expressing emotionally sensisitive issues seems to bring out the worst in all of us. That was kind of what I was getting at.
Paul
6:37 pm on Friday, December 23, 2011
I prefer the marching bands and the meaning. I little fluffy stuff is okay but the whole drag queen, men in G-strings is all that gets reported in the news and that scares people. It's no wonder they fear homosexuality. From a straight person prospective it is decadent and depraved and something they do not want there children exposed to. I know I am in a minority.
kab1200
8:51 pm on Friday, December 23, 2011
I agree, that is all they show on the news. But I think there are other images of gay people on tv to offset the flamboyant side of things. I guess if people are scared for their children, they better not take them to New Orleans for Mardi Gras. Now, that is decadent and depraved! And I am talking about the straight people! Again, you misused the word "there" for "their". One is a place, one is possessive.
Paul
11:10 am on Saturday, December 24, 2011
With a male child who turns out to be gay it begins a difficult path for the family unit as young gay adolescences males with there hormones out of control are almost pushed and pressured into promiscuity at a tender age. The lifestyle does not promote a healthy lifestyle. Pick up a gay rag and what do you see but half naked men suggesting sexual acts if you come to this establishment for decadent fun times. There are also vultures who are waiting and willing to take advantage, ready to exploit young gay males. I always felt with the arrival of AIDS it would changed the way gay people interact and behave with treating each other better but it didn't. Maybe in the very early years of the epidemic but that soon changed. The ONLY times gays REALLY get united is for gay pride or when they can get on a soap box about something like gay marriage or what not. Gays never cared about gay marriage in the 80's. I just wonder why now it is all the sudden so important or if it is just an excuse to make noise?
Todd Bianco
12:51 pm on Saturday, December 24, 2011
Really Paul, really? First, let's get the "lifestyle" thing right. There is no such thing as the "gay lifestyle." LGBT people have lives, not lifestyles. A lifestyle is the way you life your life. For example, some people love living at the beach and going surfing. That's the surfer lifestyle. Some guys like leather - that can be considered both a fetish and, if they enjoy wearing it and living it, that's a lifestyle. Some people like to live in the desert and enjoy the heat and casual lifestyle. LGBT people chose to live in all different ways. However, simply being gay (and being authentic to who you are) is NOT a lifestyle.
I think the HIV/AIDS crisis helped our community realize just how much discrimination we suffer on a daily basis. From insurance to employment to hate crimes to taxes to inheritance, we are second class citizens and often vilified. Wanting civil rights, wanting equality, is important to our movement. Why not marriage? Even if you don't want to get married, marriage - both the legal status and currency of the word - help put us on equal footing with similar non-LGBT people. It's an important step to full equality.
Now to the "vultures" and "half-naked men" and exploitation of young gay males... The heterosexual community is far ahead of us. Women, young women, have been beaten, raped, used as chattel and forced to work for less pay forever.
Maybe it's about time more LGBT people got on soap boxes and spoke out against discrimination.
Paul
1:15 pm on Saturday, December 24, 2011
I'm a gay man with some perspective having been a young man, having lived through a very difficult time with first hand experience regarding the AIDS crisis. That might not seem like a big deal to the gays coming up today but a huge segment of the gay population has been wiped out because of AIDS and continues to be but at a slower rate with the arrival of modern medicine. If you have ever been to a gay pride event and witnessed the huge crowd of people. Suddenly picture every single person there dropping dead and times that by about 10. That still would not measure the amount of people who have died from AIDS. Rather then project so much sexuality at the annual gay pride parade more thought should be placed on what we can do as a community so that more young people don't suffer that same fate from reckless behavior that is so heavy promoted at these events.
Todd Bianco
1:32 pm on Saturday, December 24, 2011
Now we're getting to something more constructive. I'm a couple years older than you and I lived through the Holocaust of AIDS in Los Angeles. Every close friend I had is dead from that period. So I get the magnitude of how AIDS has devastated the gay male population.
I think the entire Pride event needs a new perspective. A shift in focus. However, I think there is room for everyone. We are different and we should celebrate our diversity.
First, having a clear message with keynote speakers, people who are motivational and inspirational to our movement for equality. Line the media cameras and microphones up for those sound bites. Remind people about the scourge of HIV. Remember the dead. There could be all sorts of serious opportunities over 3 days.
How about closing Santa Monica Blvd down for the weekend. Let everyone walk around. The festival could take place on the boulevard over two days and maybe Friday night. Let all the businesses on SMB sell to people directly. If you want to drink, then you would have to get a special bracelet by showing ID to one of MANY booths scattered all around the Boulevard. From Crescent Heights to Robertson. La Cienega could remain open and the Sheriffs would have special crossings. So it would be legal to roam the closed streets with paper or plastic drink containers. Restaurants could serve food outside. San Vicente could be closed for the Food Trucks. WeHo park could have the tents for the special dances and entertainment.
Paul
1:55 pm on Saturday, December 24, 2011
The terrible events of 9/11 are remembered yearly as they should be. Those people were just living there lives when one day they were snuffed out. One could compare that with The AIDS crisis. They use to do a quilt that had patches that represented those who lost the lives to AIDS. Maybe a good thing to honor our dead would be having some sort of ceremony similar to the annual 9/11 memory? Just a thought.
joninla
10:55 pm on Sunday, December 25, 2011
Since a more recent articke explains the huge amout of revenue the city earns from the annual Pride Event Weekend, I think any plans should be made based on increasing the revenue stream brought in by the visitors/watchers of the psrade.
To let this particular issue of revamping Pride become in any way a battlefield of emotions, personal opinions, testing new ideas 'just to show that weho is so creative a city' would be a major mistake.
The 'Revamping' should be based solely on making the experience for the visitors as enjoyable as possible, while doing everything possible to facilitate all the needs of the people coming to see AND SPEND THEIR MONEY IN WEHO!
The layout shoud be made as uncomplicated as possible, have designated zones with clear color coding and maps of the whole event readily avable and easy to read ... Like a super basic SHOPPONG MALL MAP and include ample bathrooms and make sure there is nothing that woukf obstruct the natural flow of the crowd.
me
10:21 am on Monday, December 26, 2011
yawn
Shawn Thompson
6:45 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012
I'm for making our pride festival the best it can be. I think it's a good approach to explore what can be improved. Thank God someone on city council is looking to make things better versus continuing to flood the city with mega box stores with condos on top.
joninla
9:30 am on Monday, February 6, 2012
On a more serious issue - there is major crowd control issues with any event with the number of people coming and staying to attend a long day. That is a professional expertise that should be fully brought in before people start throwing out ideas.
For example, the natural flow in and around the old park, the booths of merchandise and food stalls worked (well, I often tripped on the street curb maneuvering around the groups of drunk people).
The new park has no access in or out at the South side other than the dangerous on a good day 'grand stair case'. Again the flow of people to prevent a panic and possible serious crushing of people needs to be addressed before the Party Planning Starts.
Likewise, the idiotic decision to put the tennis courts on top of the Parking Garage (with plans to use it for events such as pride) is just stupid. The flow into/out of the garage via the elevated narrow path makes use impractical.
However, The Structural Load of People (large numbers crowed on to of the Parking Structure, dancing to a rhythm, is far greater than cars parked - and the roof top was not engineered even for that load.
Sounds crazy - but recall the rededication of the Golden Gate Bridge. The first day was just for pedestrians, and their weight (no cars) was too much for the bridge design, and there was a possibility of damage or worse. No 'marching troop' on bridges has been known since the Civil war. Serious issues first, for safety.